http://genderblenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#ed444cba-9ef6-4035-8903-4a40824bf821 well, i call myself a transdyke and look like a woman though i was raised as a male. often i identify as intersexed or third-sexed. i am not intersexed in the genitalia from birth in the medical sense, but given the frequency of intersexuality in human births and the fact that i think the brain counts when classifying people who are not a member of the binary sexes, i see an opportunity for education and happier self-ID. i might be "classically" transsexual MTF... but i am dykey, not femme - more androgynous. and my brain says i am not male but my body was... so i think that counts as intersexed. besides which, my chemicals are female, my genes are presumably XY, my body is both, my presentation is predominantly female. now that i've been on hormones for years, what should i call myself? hello, i'm a hermaphrodite? and, finally, "transsexual" or "transgender" still has that ring to it... like i'm in drag. leaves an unpleasant taste in my mouth to say every time. i dunno why. Thu, 23 Dec 2004 18:11:05 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#ed444cba-9ef6-4035-8903-4a40824bf821 aNNa 2004-12-23T18:11:05Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#0e0d1725-2ae4-47a8-9425-79c75994d1ee I despise labels, and the English language, way to restricting for me. Even though I am a writer, I still get frustrated when trying to describe some fluidity of a character or something way beyond the reaches of this earthly plain. I used to ID myself as Trans, I still ID myself as a Transwomen but a I use the term transwomen to describe me as a spiritually transcendant women. Which is about as far as I can get into explaining the label, since the spiritual essence of me changes all the time and is interpreted beyond the simple spectrum of binary and english language. The only times where I ID myself as Trans is if I absolutely have to cause in most cases the world including a huge portion of the Trans community does not recognize the term Genderqueer. Especially not the doctors and stuff. My ID has changed again, after a realization and after accepting that I've always been intersexed, that has become a part of my ID as well. I now ID myself, if ID even works to describe me(the english language is so fucking restricting) as an genderqueer intersexed transwomen. Still femme butch, (I heard someone mention the word "fetch" to describe me and another word popped into my head to describe myself, so I shall continue) silver rose omnisexual lesbian/dyke. Hugs, Sincerly, Ariel Archaicflame Mon, 13 Dec 2004 13:09:56 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#0e0d1725-2ae4-47a8-9425-79c75994d1ee Ariel 2004-12-13T13:09:56Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#fb3137ba-6cfb-465f-8c88-26248395a877 True, after all, a label is merely a way of classifying something by giving it a name, different from similar things that is agreed by other people. When the first person who called the chair a chair, they were labeling something, and thank heaven's 'cause "musical things" just doesn't have the same pazzazz as "musical chairs" wouldn't you agree? Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:21:15 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#fb3137ba-6cfb-465f-8c88-26248395a877 sailor alecs (aka: heidi ho!) 2004-08-25T16:21:15Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#7a31b917-d5ba-4f50-aa3a-61d03566f043 I agree...Labels suck.First and foremost I am a human being.OOOps I am labeling again.I never have liked boxes but sometimes their nessasary to get a point accross as to where we fit in as individuals in the broad spectrum of humanity. Wed, 25 Aug 2004 12:34:39 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#7a31b917-d5ba-4f50-aa3a-61d03566f043 Karen 2004-08-25T12:34:39Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#7daaf8db-d68c-4584-8731-7ec7088349c4 right 'the hell" on! Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:35:34 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#7daaf8db-d68c-4584-8731-7ec7088349c4 sailor alecs (aka: heidi ho!) 2004-08-25T02:35:34Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#4fc3f3c4-7897-48eb-a498-51e245b94d1f Interesting. By that virtue I am transanything and transeverything. It is very cool to be so!! Bob C. Tue, 24 Aug 2004 20:53:52 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#4fc3f3c4-7897-48eb-a498-51e245b94d1f Bob 2004-08-24T20:53:52Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#2223633f-9e23-4e71-88f0-35f00a23fe1d you know, i was just thinking about this on the bus this morning. on one hand, i heard from les feinberg early on that anyone who doesn't fit inside of the gender binary in any way is trans, meaning across, implying (to me) fluid. on the other hand, lots of the reason that i keep identifying as trans and not something else is that what i face on the street is definitely transphobia. how fucked up is that? i'm sorry i have nothing constructive to add. but yeah, i feel ya. Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:20:39 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#2223633f-9e23-4e71-88f0-35f00a23fe1d Val 2004-08-24T13:20:39Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#eb329363-a03d-4c1a-96e1-09f88688c4c8 One reason why I've sorta felt weird about jumping in with the trans label head first is that for a lot of people it's sort of reinforcing the binary. Even with genderqueer, which is my ID of choice, some people see it as either limiting or demeaning Labels are affirming for some people, but really restricting for others. We should be able to call ourselves whatever we want. If we want to stick with the binary, that's ok. If we wanna go out of it, ok. If we want nothing to do with the labels, that ought to be okay as well. Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:02:03 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#eb329363-a03d-4c1a-96e1-09f88688c4c8 sailor alecs (aka: heidi ho!) 2004-08-24T07:02:03Z http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#4ba3a524-34ad-40a6-ac1a-267020ad2a3b The people that I associate with are all up and becoming trans out of nowhere, and while I don't really have a prob with that, I think that maybe it's just another way of giving in to the gender binary system. See, at first, I thought - wow, what an open minded group of people - but soon it started to feel like pressure to define myself as either female or transgender - which was exactly what I was trying to get away from. I personally feel like all and none - then one or the other at different points in time. But why all the pressure to define one's-self? Why is it that the people who preach so much gender fluidity don't just accept the lack of any specific gender association? I don't know - maybe were trained for so long to see only two sides to gender - so it's so engrained in us that we feel like we'll be all alone if we don't pick one or the other. I'm tired of picking one or the other. I'm tired of boxes. What do others think? Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:29:36 GMT http://GenderBlenders.tribe.net/thread/5fc701b9-fc70-4688-a7e8-254c53aade5c#4ba3a524-34ad-40a6-ac1a-267020ad2a3b Raine 2004-08-24T05:29:36Z